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Xtreme Fat Loss Diet Review – Does It Really Work?

xtreme fat loss diet cover The Xtreme Fat Loss Diet is a new nutrition and workout fat loss program created by Joel Marion, a well known nutrition and fitness expert and author. He has also been recognized by Men’s Fitness magazine as one of America’s Top 50 Personal Trainers.

This time, Joel focuses on helping men and women

achieve the most rapid fat loss possible in 25 days. This is the duration of the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet.

I recommend checking out the following before and after pictures of people who used this plan and to read some testimonials: Click here to read some Xtreme Fat Loss Diet Testimonials

This rapid fat loss is arrived at with a unique eating and workout routine that incorporates several special fitness and diet approaches.

Does the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet work or is it a scam? Let’s see how it works…

The Xtreme Fat Loss Diet program revolves around a 5 day cycle which is repeated 5 times in the duration of the diet to make up for the complete 25 days.

Here are the days which are included in each cycle:

Cheat Day : Density Training Day

The Cheat Day of each cycle is a day in which you can eat even fattening foods like pizza and ice cream.

You do this to boost your leptin levels and encourage faster fat burning. Leptin is a hormone that’s largely responsible for your metabolism and fat burning. A higher level of leptin often means a faster metabolic rate.

The problem with conventional diets is that when you cut your calories, your leptin levels diminish making it harder and harder for you to burn more weight. This happens gradually so 1-2 days of calorie restriction won’t hurt you but as you continue to limit your calories, your leptin levels will plummet.

A Cheat Day every once in a while helps to reset your leptin levels and maintain a high metabolism. It also has excellent psychological benefits as being able to eat “non diet” foods like pizza every 5 days helps you stick to any diet plan for as long as you need.

The Density Style workouts on this day help to protect your lean muscle tissue while you’re shedding fat so you can have that toned look.

Shake Day: Strength Training Day

On the Shake Day of the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet, Joel Marion advocated getting all your calories from special nutritional shakes. This helps you to have a low calorie day (but not near as low as the fast day) because you know exactly where to get all your energy from.

You do strength training to help maintain lean muscle mass and let your body recover optimally from the more intensive workouts of cheat and fast days.

Fast Day: Lactic Acid Training Day

man with six pack abs On the fast day, your leptin levels are soaring. This is the perfect time to create a massive calorie deficit and shed a lot of fat.

Because your leptin levels are high from your “cheating day”, your metabolism doesn’t slow down. Remember, Leptin takes a few days to really decrease.

You achieve this massive calorie reduction through a strategic one day fast. I say strategic because this is not a complete fast. You will be consuming calories, just a low amount of them.

In addition, you will also do lactic acid workouts that burn a ton more calories. The food you had on the cheating day gives you the energy to do these workouts so you can increase your calorie deficit and burn even more fat.

Moderate Carb : Dynamic Training Day

The Moderate Carb day of the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet you eat a diet in which 40

% of your calories come from carbs, 30% from fats, and 30% from protein.

This is a higher calorie day than days 2-3 but not as high as the Cheat Day. This eating pattern helps you to enjoy more food after the previous two days of lower calories and also gives you the energy you need to perform your Dynamic Training, a high metabolic workout that accelerates fat loss.


Protein-Only Depletion : Lactic Acid Training Day

The purpose of this day is to deplete the body of energy, “making room” for the Cheat Day which is coming on the next day (being the first day of the next 5 day cycle). Lactic acid training is done due to its intense fat burning effects.

The result of these different days and workout plans  is a rapid and massive fat loss.

Although the program itself is for 25 days in total (5 cycles), you can do it over every 8-12 weeks. In between, you need to do a more moderate workout plan which is something Joel Marion discusses in the program.

What’s included in the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet

  • Comprehensive diet manual
  • Training manual with all the different workouts of the program
  • Success log to track your progress
  • Supplementation guide – Some supplements are recommended with this plan but they are NOT mandatory.
  • Workout log for each of the workouts in the program
  • Quick start reference check-list
  • Various bonuses.

The program comes with a 60 day money back guarantee.

Special bonus for readers of this review only:

Because this is a recommended diet plan, WorldofDiets.com is offering a special guide for new users of Joel Marion’s Xtreme Fat Loss:

The Maintain Don’t Gain Guide

We all know that the challenge of losing weight doesn’t stop when you’ve shed all the excess pounds. You still need to maintain your new weight. This can prove to be a real challenge.

With the Maintain Don’t Gain guide you get a simple and effective way to maintain your weight for years to come.

You can get this guide for free by following these steps:

1. Click here to order the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet

2. You will get a receipt in your email. Email this receipt to

support [at] worldofdiets.com

3. I will email you the digital ebook of the Maintain Don’t Gain guide free of charge.

Now you can burn fat rapidly and have confidence that you’ll be able to keep it off for years to come.

This bonus offer cannot be found anywhere else, only on this review.

In Conclusion

Xtreme Fat Loss diet is an excellent plan if you wish to burn off some stubborn body fat and lose weight fast. The workouts in this program are intensive and may not be right for beginners, but they are also effective.

If you’re prepared to put in some effort in the next 25 days, you can expect to lose belly fat, get toned, tone some trouble spots, and get leaner and fitter.

Here’s a short video I made which summarizes the program for you:

Note: this program may also be referred to as the Extreme Fat Loss Diet Plan. For more info about this program visit Xtreme Fat Loss Diet questions and answers

Date published: April 18, 2010. Last modified: September 24, 2012


  1. Started the XFLD on Monday, lost 8 lbs by Friday. I’m sure most was water weight. However, over time consuming low carbs combined with working out, you will drop lbs. It’s just a matter of time.

  2. Hi Jonathan, I would like to buy the program however I am wondering how intense the exercises are since I have some knee issues (Chondromalacia patellae) and also in my left shoulder (capsulitis), or if I can replace some exercises in order complete the program.
    I would like to lose around 30 pounds for the the middle of december, so I know there are not miracles without hard work but I wouldn’t like to hurt myself in the process.
    Thanks in advance!

    • Frank,

      I’m sorry, my friend, but I don’t know what to tell you.

      Your health is the most important thing, but I can’t give you medical advice. You need to consult with your doctor about this. You can either get the program, show your doctor the exercises, and return it if he/she say it is to strenuous for you, or seek a less intense program.

      This program does have very intense workouts, so I’m leaning toward no.

  3. Hi Jonathan. I’ve seen that you know as better as us Joel Marion. I would like to ask you if you know why I have not yet received the report 17 cheat foods that burn fat. I’ve made a lot of requests but nobody answered, I’ve emailed biotrust nutrition and nobody answered. What’s wrong? How can I do to contact Joel Marion or how can I get this report? Thank you.

  4. Is there a Bodyweight edition for this Program?

  5. Hi All,
    I would like to try this diet. I have no problem with workouts (I work pretty hard already!)
    The only issue I have is with the supplements of BCAA & protein shakes which I want to avoid.
    Before I sign up, I want to know if there is a real alternative to these supplements. In particular what do I do in fast day and in shake day ?

  6. I would like to share my experience. I purchased the extreme fatloss diet from Joel Marion. I did not get any tangible results whatsoever. I’m sure the program is great but when I inquired about a refund, I was ignored for a month then told I had to use the program. I did use the program and I don’t believe that they back the guarantee for a refund. Just a warning to others. Thank you.

  7. I decided not to do this diet for two reasons. 1) My family would not tolerate a 5 day diet cycle 2) I’m body building right now and need to have carbohydrate calories after my workout, hence shake day and fast day would not work. I am trying to lose weight and am actually using a modified cheat your way thin diet (my family can tolerate a 7 day diet cycle). Anyway, the point is, this diet is not for everyone. For those that are looking for BCAA powder, you can find it at Nutrabio.com. Warning, it is flavorless and rather intolerable in water alone.

  8. Hello All,
    I wanted to share my experiences with XFLD thus far. I purchased this program last year and decided not to try it. Joel put it out again and it reminded me that I had it. I mustered up some motivation and am now near the end of my third cycle. I am not entirely impressed thus far. I lost 5.4 lbs. at the end of my first cycle and only 0.6 at the end of my second cycle. To be fair though, life got in the way and I missed two workouts in the second cycle. I feel great and am gaining a lot of my strength back. I am looking forward to checking my results again at the end of the third cycle. You are supposed to check your measurements upon waking on the morning of each cheat day and only that day and time. This will be this Sunday morning for me. I will let everyone know how it turned out. To everyone else trying XFLD, Good Luck.

    • Jonathan says:

      Hey Mike,
      Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to reading how the third cycle turned out.

    • I have just completed my 5th cycle and I am much stronger, much leaner and considerably smaller for just 25 days worth of intense effort. I was disappointed in the scales – only lost 12 lbs, but trust that’s because of muscle gain vs just fat loss.
      This program requires much effort – effort in preparing, understanding and calculating macronutrients, learning the exercises, and ultimately effort putting it all together and doing it! Before I bought the program – I felt I was well warned that this was a demanding regime and not for the wavering minded dieter. I am proud to say I stuck with it and am overall pleased with my results.
      Unfortunately, I don’t really know where to go from here. Following daily instructions is somehow a lot easier and less-risky than trying to figure out a maintenance program on my own. I will continue with metabolic resistance training, watch the scale and monitor calorie intake. I could easily see this xtreme fat loss program becoming an annual (or bi-annual) event for me.

  9. I highly recommend RUNNING away not walking away from this program…it is a moneypit & is VERY misleading! I am in the process of disputing these purchases as there is NO communication or support. I purchased the basic program, Done-for-You Accelerator Pack & the Bodyweight Workout System. Once I received them, I realized in order to follow the workout regiment you needed a gym membership or a complete weight bench with barbell/dumbells, body fat scale, very expensive diet supplements at HUNDREDS of additional dollars none of which is mentioned PRIOR to your purchase! One of the big selling features of the “Done-for-You Accelerator Pack” is the VIP email support exclusively with Joel….that was MISSING from the package when received & other than the support email address (which no one responds to) , there is conveniently not any phone numbers or any other means of communication with this company. The “Bodyweight Workout System” was purchased to be able to workout without any additional equipment. Following the instructions to download the videos, you receive “Blip” embedding errors & are unable to download them. I am extremely sorry I purchased these products & I hope everyone who reads this takes note!

    • Jonathan says:

      Hi Kevin,

      I am NOT a representative of this program, but I do know that the supplements are recommended but not required.

      How long ago did you email Joel?

      • I emailed support as Joel conveniently does not provide a direct email address (even if you pay for it). I emailed support a few days ago. For someone who is “NOT” a representative of this program, every post that states something negative you highly defend Joel & the program. I suspect you are part of his back link affiliate network and benefit from sales leads as you have direct links to purchase the program.

        • Jonathan says:

          I could easily not approve negative comments, so I don’t think I deserve what you wrote. I allow an open discussion here.

          I didn’t defend anything, just stated a fact about the supplements. Note that I didn’t say anything to change your mind about getting a refund. If you didn’t get a response to your emails, you have a right to be angry.

        • Jonathan says:

          By the way, Kevin, you don’t need Joel
          to get a refund. Just contact the payment processor, here: https://www.clickbank.com/orderDetail.htm

          I hope this helps.

  10. Hello,

    Please help me! I started the third cycle yesterday of XFLD and I have officially gained a total of 6 pounds so far. When I started, I weighed 145.5 and now I weigh 151.5. I have tried loking to them for support, but like many others, I haven’t gotten any responses. I don’t want to return the product, I just want it to work. I could really use some guidance. I have mapped out EVERYTHING for my specific weight and LBM and things like that. I have done the exercises everyday with the exception of yesterday, which was a cheat day. I’m starting to lose hope and it’s making me so upset. I need something to work. Please help me.

    • Hi jhutch.
      I’m no expert on this dieting thing, but there could be a number of reasons for the gain in weight. Here is a quick check list I would consider first before stressing out too much.
      1. Are you weighing yourself at the beginning of each cycle, at the same time of day? Weight fluctuates during the day, as well as day to day.

      2. Are you using the same scales?

      3. Is your weight gain from fat or muscle? You say you are doing all the workouts. Were you working out like this before the diet. If not, perhaps your weight gain is muscle. If so, then it’s all good:D

      Personally I don’t like using electronic scales to measure my body fat percentage, I like to use calipers. Accumeasure bodyfat calipers were recommended to me and they are cheap and easy to use. Here is the site.

      I’m starting the 2nd cycle of the same diet and lost 1 kilogram of weight over the first cycle. Most of it body fat and a maybe a little bit of LBM. I can’t say that I stuck strictly to what he recommended, but I followed everything fairly closely (90%). I didn’t follow any of his exercises either as I’ve been doing other types of strength training over the past year and wanted to continue with them.

      Hope this helps…

    • Jonathan says:


      Joey has already answered you and offered some excellent options.

      I wouldn’t panic.

      Measure your width, across your hips and waist and see whether you lost inches. Are you looking and feeling better? If so, then all is well.

      I don’t really know why this happened, and I recommend emailing support again.

  11. Hello Jonathan,

    At first I lost around 0.8-1.2kg each on day 2, 3, 5, 7 and 8, but I’m on my 13th day now and I only lost 0.2 kg on the 10th and 12th day.., do you have any idea why I suddenly stopped losing weight quickly? (I lost 5kg in 8 days, and since then I have only lost 0.6 kg)


    • Jonathan says:

      Hi Rene,

      A lot of time you drop a lot of weight in the first days and then it tapers off. I don’t recommend weighing yourself each day. You decided to commit 25 days to this program. Weigh yourself at the end of that period and see how you do.

  12. Wayne Wylie says:

    The guy is just another internet fraud. Spend your money of good running shoes. This is just a rip-off.

  13. Jackie says:

    My charges went through on the 3rd. I didn’t receive an immediate download. It is now the 9th and two attempts via the support email…Nothing. Before it is too late, where do I get a refund without an answer from the company themselves, I am very suspicious and concerned.

    • Jonathan says:

      Hi Jackie,
      Please send me an email and I’ll try to contact Joel Marion on your behalf. My guess is that it simply takes time with the mass of new customers he has. You can get a refund through clickbank.

      • okay thank you for the explanation – still interested – i will send you an email

        • Okay I am on day 10 and tomorrow is supposed to be my cheat day but I have an event planned for Saturday. I want to move my cheat day to Saturday – what is the best day to put into the place for tomorrow. Should I continue with today – Protein depletion day?
          I know stick to the plan as laid out is best.
          thanks for any advice –

  14. Wow you people are pathetic… boo hoo, it’s too much work… boo hoo it’s too hard… boo hoo i’m not losing weight fast enough… boo hoo, it’s a rip off!

    Your loser attitude is the reason you are FAT in the first place!

    Don’t blame the program… LOL grow up.

  15. Rob Irvine says:

    This is just another internet rip off. You will get nothing close to what the site suggests and there is nothing to follow. No diet, nothing but some very loose guidelines and is you have an ounce of common sense you know everything that is in this material already. It’s not worth $7. never mind $70. Save your money.

  16. Briana says:

    Hello, I just purchased Full Throttle Fat Loss from Dr. Kareem Samhouri and received an email about this program from him. I was wondering whether using Dr. Samhouri’s workouts instead of the ones in the XFLD would be just as effective. Also, I’m a vegetarian and was wondering if there were a lot of alternative options for me since I don’t consume any meat (but I eat eggs/dairy).

    • Jonathan says:

      Hi Briana,
      There’s no reason to mix the two. Either use Joel Marion’s program or Dr. Samhouri’s.

  17. You don’t need this bs. it’s a ripoff. Eat less (stop at ~80% full), eat cleanly (stay away from processed foods/sweets and the obvious junk) and workout hard. You’ll lose weight. All this nonsense is a waste of time.

    • Jonathan says:

      Hi Joe,

      This is sound advice always, but it doesn’t mean that this program is BS or ineffective. It is a program that works.

      • Hi, I also am almost done the last cycle of xfld and I have had great results. I came on here looking for other people who have done the program curious about their results. I did find the fact that you needed (or he highly recommended ) supplements a bit misleading at the begining of the program but I believed the info made a lot of sense and just have been giving it my all. The only supplements I decided to use were the bcaa’s. I lost 10 pounds in 20 days and I have lost inches too but I’m not meaasuring exactly until I’m done in 3 days. I started out weighing 135 pounds and last time I checked , I was 125 . I have never in my life been in such good shape. So If you stick with the program and follow as closly as possible you will acheive results :).

  18. Lyndsay Morrison says:

    My question has to do with the accelerator package and the recipes that you get. Do I have to now calculate how much of each recipe I can eat based on my weight and body fat percentage? If so, I would like my money back as it now becomes just as much work as planning all my meal myself.


  19. Tabitha says:

    I had just ordered the xtreme fat loss 25-day diet. Unfortunately, I didn’t realize it requires more purchases such as BCAA protein powder bottles and many other different kinds of supplements. I mistakenly thought it was going to be a recipe book for different foods to cook during the 25-day diet. I apologize for my mistake and I read on your website that a refund is feasible
    and I would like a refund, please. How would you like to do this?
    Thank you.

    Tabitha Markel

    • Jonathan says:

      Hi Tabitha,

      The supplements are recommended, but you don’t have to use them. You can do without them.

      You should contact Joel Marion through the support email on your order for a refund.

  20. I’m curious about the program, but I’m allergic to milk, eggs, bananas, avocado, and shellfish. Is it possible to do this even with my allergies

  21. For anyone who can’t deal with taking the pills, there is a drink mix too. It’s does the same thing and its cheaper and better than swallowing 100 pills.

  22. I tried this program twice now, but had to stop both times. I can not do the fast day and still function. I’m weak and dizzy and unable to any kind of daily task let alone a workout. I emailed some questions, but never got a response. Then I tried to cancel as this program does not seem to be working for me and there is no support, but still no response. I am a little disappointed.

    • Hi Amy,
      It’s strange that you didn’t get a reply. When did you get the program? I will be glad to help you contact Joel Marion. You can also get a refund directly from Clickbank.

    • It helps if you really make sure to eat lots on your cheat day, don’t make yourself sick but eat throughout the day till you’re full. Also drink lots of water on the fast day, I drank about 3-4 litres on my fast day.

  23. Hey,
    I am just scared I have put on tons of weight in the last one year, I’m a pure vegetarian and need to lose a good 25 kgs. Does this diet really work?

    • Hi Sheena,

      The program is effective, but it requires you to work hard with your workouts. If you’re motivated, give it a try.

  24. Hi, this is day 5 of second cycle. First cycle of 5 days lost 3.5 lbs, second cycle nothing. Hoping for some movement in the next cycle……..

  25. I’m now starting Cycle 5. I wanted to lose 15 lbs. Cycle 1 I lost 3.5 lbs, Cycle 2 I lost 2.5 lbs, Cycle 3 I PUT ON 2 lbs, Cycle 4 I lost 1 lb! I know I have not done the exercises prescribed but it says it’s supposed to work reasonably well even without them. How can I have put ON weight in the middle of it?? I have put days of work into all the calculations and measuring and have not cheated once. Just by not drinking wine alone, I should have lost more than 5 lbs in 20 days. I am bitterly disappointed and frustrated.

    • Jonathan says:

      Hi Jane, I appreciate your frustration but if you didn’t do the exercises you can achieve optimal results with the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet. I think that you can be happy with the weight that you lost.

  26. donald machen says:

    I paid my money and did not get the diet download. What can I do to get it and the calculator that I paid for?

    • Jonathan says:

      Hi Donald,

      When you purchased the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet you got a receipt by email and there is a support address there. Write to it and they will help you.

      • Good luck with getting an answer. I’ve been trying to get a refund for over a month, and I’ve never had any reply to any of the emails sent to the support@joelmarion.net address.

        • I have never managed to get any reply or support from this address either. Besides, now that I have read the books, include the Accelerator Pack, I recommend all to wait for another edition. The first is seriously lacking in guidance on supplement amounts, improved worksheets, needs editing, and better guidance on recipe servings and nutritional breakdown. I spent days researching just to figure out what amount of food I should eat for each meal, how much of a supplement to take, dealing with the contradiction in nutrients I am to take in on Shake Days and the nutrient breakdown of the shake recipes provided. It has taken me a longer than desired to get started.

          • HI Candace,

            I have to agree, there is a lack of information regarding the timing and amounts of supplements to take along with the diet! It recommends, and plugs Prograde, but does not tell you how to use it. That said though, I am plugging along nicely and while in loads of pain from unused muscle groups suddenly being woken up, I can already feel the difference when I get dressed, and I am only on the first cycle! Fingers crossed for the next 2 (I only need to lose 10lb, not 25lb so hopefully only have to do 3 cycles.)
            I will say though, it does need to be proofread and a comprehensive table produced outlining one day’s food, exercise and supplement.

  27. O.K. I would like to drop maybe 10 more pounds and 4 inches off my gut. I am in the military and currently deployed. how can this program work for me, if i barely have access to food? much less healthy food? can someone give me an insight as to what things i would need to be successful in this program? the only thing i have access to is a very small gym with free weights and some cardio equipment. thanks for any input.

  28. Kelly Marchand says:

    So I e-mailed support@joelmarion.net at the beginning of this weight loss program and he replied right away. Now after I have finished and the program did not work for me, I e-mailed him asking for my full guaranteed refund. He won’t reply to ANY of my e-mails. Seems kind of fishy since he was so quick to reply before. Is he trying to get out of the guarantee? I’m not saying the program doesn’t work, it just didn’t work for me. But in case it doesn’t work, do you want to be stuck in the same situation as me where they won’t give you the refund they guaranteed? Thanks guys, I love it when promises aren’t kept.

    • Hi Kelly, you can get a refund from Clickbank. They handle it in a few days.

    • Hi Kelly,

      There is no possible way this couldn’t have worked for you if you did as you were supposed to do. As I already posted, I work 12-hour shifts, so I couldn’t follow the program verbatim. However, I did the best I could and lost 14 lbs in the 25 days.

      Please share HOW it didn’t work for you. I am curious to know.

      Thank you

  29. I purchased the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet last friday around noon. I still have not received anything for my $67.00. I never got the download page and I have sent several e-mails to the support address given on Joels site and still nothing. Does anyone have a better e-mail address or maybe a phone number so I can contact his company and get what my bank has already been charged for. I just want to start the diet as soon as possible. I didn’t do the risk free trial because I have been waiting for this diet and I know Im going to love it, so I just opted to pay the full price. Of course now Im regretting it. Any help or insight would be appreciated. Cheers!

  30. Hi, I am on day 6 of XFLD. I was wondering how many calories is too many calories for a cheat day? I feel like I may be WAY over-doing it. My calculated calorie intake for the other days of the diet is about 1100, so I was just curious how many over that is acceptable. Thanks!

    • You can’t overdo it, really. You are supposed to consume (as long as you don’t stuff yourself) three times your normal expected intake. As a 210 lb male, my intake should be around 2000 to 2600 calories. On a cheat day, I can go as high as 6000 to 7000 calories, believe it or not.

      I work 12-hour shifts, so I cannot stick to the program with exactness, however, I did the best I could, and I lost a total of 14 lbs in 25 days, and my cheat day consumption was around 3000 to 4000 calories or more. It felt like I was being a pig, but when I fasted the next day, it all fell into perspective.

  31. natalie says:

    Hey everyone,

    I started it 10 days ago and I love it! I honestly don’t know what my final results will be, but I feel amazing! I love that there is strategy behind everything that is going on. The workouts are kicking my butt and I am loving every minute of it! As for eating…a cheat day every 5 days….who could ask for anything more!? I think if you focus and go hard for 25 days you will be very happy with results and motivated to continue with a healthy lifestyle! They do have BCAAs in a powder form….I just add it to my water and a little crystal light and am good to go! Good luck to those that try it!

  32. Hey Guys

    Can anyone advise of they have lost weight on the programe while following a less strenous form of exercise? I am on day 2 of the first cycle, so its the fast day I have found the workouts too intense for me at my level, plus swallowing over a 100 BCAA tablets today its made me feel ill and given me a headache to the point where I coudln’t workout today, I found swallowing that many tablets too hard.

    I would appreciate some feedback from anyone who is doing the programe with a less strenous exercise routine and getting really good results??

    Joel is not good at responding to e-mails at all, thats the reason I upgraded was to get one on one with him! My first e-mail was answered with a 3 word answer which left me confused, I sent him another 2 e-mails which were completely ignored. So I have had to find my own answers as best as I can.

    • I too purchased the program and am on day 3. Day one was ok. I normaly eat healthy and found it hard to have a cheat day as I was not craving anything. Day 2 I lasted until 8 pm. I was not really hungry BUT CRAVINGS I wanted everything in sight. I had some carrot juice a hand full of blue berries then went and took a bath. After the bath I was still craving like crazy so I ate some popcorn. I have decided to do the workouts (because I paid for them) and modify where I need to. I am a Personal trainer and I try all programs first before I recomend them to my clients. I would not recomend them to my clients ever. I don’t often crave food and I could not handel the headaches, to many bcaa’s, and the cravings. I will be doing the eat basic foods no sauses, no dips, no bad stuff for 4 days and then on the 5th day if I crave something (one meal) I will have it then start again. Hope this helps. Kim

      • Thanks for the repsonse Kim. I never have a problem fasting in fact I do it once a month for health reasons so the fast day didnt bother me, but having to swallow 17 BCAA tabs 6 times a day made me feel really sick, not to mention the worst headache I have had in ages. Just looking at the bottle of BCAA I started feeling ill again. I also found the workouts too hard on my joints, 4 days later from my first workout and my knees are still painful! Can you advise since you are a personal trainer, on a fast day what is a good amount of BCAA to take? is it really neccessary to take so much? I had to take 51grams for the day.

  33. I have started the XFLD. I can’t seem to find a forum for it, but people here seem to have some good ideas. My question is this: Are the “free veggies” allowed on all days or only on eating days? I don’t have any problem with the Fast Day, I couldn’t get through 5 shakes on the Shake Day, only 4. And I found I just didn’t have enough room for wter with all of that liquid. I didn’t use whey powder because I don’t do dairy, so used almond milk. I am also not able to do the intense work-outs. I am working out, but not as suggested. I saw on the ad that someone he knew had good results without following to the letter the work-outs. I’ll let you all know how I do. Heading into day 4, solid food, yay!

    • Yay, Dawn! Please let us know how you did. I am starting on the 12th. I had to order the supplements, and I have set up five continuous days off from work so that I can start the program and get used to it all on the right foot.

      I will be trying to follow it to the letter…except, of course, for the fish problem I have (if you’ve read my other posts).

      Just for the record, John, Mr. Joel has still not answered either of my two emails. Oh, well…nine days until I start. Counting them down anxiously.

  34. Just a note: I am about ready to start this program, however, I wanted everybody to know who hasn’t purchased it yet, that Joel does NOT, I repeat, does NOT return email questions like he says he does in his sales pitch. I have been waiting for a week for a response to my question that asks what I can use in replace of the planned meals instead of fish, since I am allergic to the stuff. I have received NOTHING…not even from one of his grunts. I also asked what he recommended I do, since I am a weekend, 12-hour shift night worker, and up days during the week. NO ANSWER! It seems that once they get your money, they could give two craps about you!

    By the way, if anyone has an answer to these questions, I would highly appreciate it, so I can get started with this program. I would have started last week, if the guy would have simply answered my email.

    • Hi Troy,

      This is very disturbing. I believe it may be due to sheer volume of emails. From what I understand, over 15,000 people got a copy of this program last week. I’m sure you’ll get an email from Joel Marion soon.

      • Thank you for your reply, John. As far as my questions go, I have answered one myself. I am just going to stay strictly on my work schedule all 25 days. So I will go be up all night, going to the gym, eating, etc., and sleeping during the days. However, my other question still needs to be addressed. Would you happen to have an answer for the “fish” question? Can I just substitute chicken or lean beef for the fish?


    • Stephanie says:

      As long as you’re having the same amount of protein, I see no reason why you cannot have chicken or beef. Fish is generally advised as it’s very healthy in omega 3’s, but allergies are allergies. You will be fine, just like someone like me who eats the same veggies all the time cos there’s only few I like 🙂 I’m sure you will still get great results.

      • Thank you, Stephanie. I am supplementing with Omega 3’s, which don’t affect my allergy, whatsoever. Besides, the taste of fish disgusts me anyway.

  35. Hi,

    I ordered several products from XFLD. The problem is that the supplement producer prograde don’t ship their products to Norway!!!!!!!!!

    • I was afraid of that. I live in Norway too and have been doing heaps of research because it seems that something always goes wrong… I feel sorry for you!

  36. Thanks so much for this forum! Clearly another example of a plan over selling their product. The only thing I wish is that WOD would do more objective reviews. This is clearly a diet that requires some very radical eating and work outs. Now I can deal with the workouts and the site is fairly clear that you will need to work hard, but the eating part is not touched on at all. If it weren’t for this forum I too would have wasted my money and more importantly my time.

    Take care and happy body image to all!

    • Hi Jack,

      I’m not sure what you mean by not objective. The review does touch on the eating part of the program. In addition, these comments are all moderated. This shows that WOD does allow negative and positive comments on the Xtreme Fat Loss Diet to appear for all to see. How can it be more objective than that?

  37. Hi
    I leave in Nairobi Kenya and i would like to get the Extreme fatloss diet.
    i am unable to visit the gym can the workouts be done from home?

  38. I havent purchased XFLD yet but am contemplating it and was wondering if all the food stuff is available in Dubai. Would it be possible to get an idea of what it contains so I can then decide whether to buy it or not?

    Appreciate your response.


  39. hey
    this diet really really impressed me and im thinking of starting off from march 12 2011..
    before iv done alot of diets like the 3 hour diet , the 30 day shred but my problem with all these were that i just couldnt do it more then like 2 weeks cuz i just got so completely bored with them.. i hope this one proves me wrong i just need to loose like 5 or 10 pounds.
    also the problem is the country where i live to get the protein powder is going to be very hard and expensive so what should i do as a subsitute for it. can anyone help me out.??

    • Hi,

      You can get protein from eggs, fish, or meat.

      May I ask why you plan on waiting for March 12th? The best thing you can do is get started as soon as you can. Get the program and make a schedule for all your workouts. When you do start it, everything will be ready.

  40. Hi,

    I am in recovery from a slipped disc and am limited to the eliptical trainer and ab workouts with my physio therapist. Can this plan still be effective with these restrictions?

    Thanks !

    • Hi Cher,

      This is a program that does include resistance training. I can’t give you any particular advice as I don’t really know your condition. I’m sorry.

  41. After losing 5kg of fat in 25 days I am ready to shift to Cheat Your Way Thin. However the CYWT only recommends a few MIIT workouts a week and to “keep active”.

    After all the daily resistance and/or cardio or HIIT on Xtreme, it seems like a pretty wimpy followup.

    What is the best way to combine all the workouts I learned in Xtreme with CYWT?

    • It is true that Cheat Your Way Thin is a less strenuous plan than XFLD. I believe you do have leeway in making the workouts on CYWT harder according to your fitness level.

    • Yeah, that is what I figured.

      Leeway is good, but I think it gets confusing for customers moving from one program to the other as to what is optimal.

      MIIT 20 min or HIIT 8-10 min?
      How much resistance, how much cardio?

      I don’t mind working out 5 days a week, but I find without guidelines I am inconstant. That is why I liked the XFLD, as the plan, though intense, was quite defined.

  42. The following is the guarantee that is given by Xtreme if you do not lose the most that you have ever lost on any other diet. You may be careful about what you determine to be “No Hassles, or hoops” because in order to get a refund you have to prove to them that you completed the full program. Think about that. You have to submit your daily logs and they get to determine if you completed the program or not. Just a heads up if you are thinking that the refund will be prompt and easy like the guarantee states. This has NOT been my experience.

    “We stand behind our product as the fastest fat loss program ever created, and if doesn’t yield those results for you when followed, you get your money back. No hassles, no hoops to jump through, just a prompt, courteous refund.”

  43. Michael says:

    I haven’t emailed, but he should have a forum or even an Q&A on facebook for a few minutes each day. On Protein depletion, if I read things correctly, @ 258-72(bf%)=185(LBM)x 2 grams = 370grams / 5 meals = 74 grams of protein for 5 meals. That seems alot.

  44. I am 8 days into the program and its been great so far. I am just wandering as I really cannot get the proteinshakes down, so on shake day, is it okay that I just eat meat/carbs and fat in meals from normal groceries? I have calculated that I get the same amount of all the nutritions just in solid food instead of shakes. in my point of view it should be ok. What do you say?

    • Hi Liv,

      I’m glad you’re doing well with XFLD. I think you should contact Joel Marion through the support email you got with the program and ask. He should be able to give the best answer.

    • Lyndsay Morrison says:

      I did get an email back from the Joel Marion support team on this one and it said:

      While the BCAAs are highly recommended, they are not completely necessary. You don’t need to purchase the supplements. For the Fast Day, instead of BCAAs consume small amounts of protein. For the Shake days, if you do not wish to use protein shakes at all, you can substitute another moderate carb day in place of the Shake Day. Have a great day, Xtreme Fat Loss Diet Support

  45. Am i allowed to do some intense cardio jogging instead of the interval training and after i finish the 25 days can i go ahead and do another 25 days or should i wait a week or two

    • Hi Jade,

      You can combine intense jogging as part of the interval training but I would send an email to the support of the diet after you sign up.

      You can do the 25 days over but you do need to wait a few weeks in between.

  46. Natalie says:

    Hi, i wonder if this can work for me, I don’t have so much fat to lose, maybe 4kg. I just wonder if this programme can help me firm my body and if I can get some lean muscles???
    And another question; I’m worried about the ‘shake day’ cause’ I only eat 2 times/day. I’m not hungry in the morning and sometimes I don’t have time to eat lunch. So i’m worried about that this ‘chock-day’ would not come as a ‘chock’ for my body…

    • Hi, I believe that most of the people who use this diet plan do have more to lose but I don’t think you should have any problem with it.

  47. Hi Everyone, this is John from WorldofDiets.com.
    I just wanted to let you know that I contacted Joel Marion himself and told him about the support issues some people are having. He assured me he would take care of this and get his support staff to improve their act.

    Should you want a refund. Contacting Clickbank is the easiest and quickest way to go.

  48. For a group that seems so eager to help you get in shape, they are really bad at responding to their emails. I have sent them messages to every email address that I have on file. I either get the message returned as undeliverable or no response at all!!

  49. Considering that many foods have some combination of protein, carbs, and fats, it seems like it would be quite challenging to hit one’s numbers on the Moderate Carb day without an excessive amount of time spent looking up nutrient breakdown (on food labels, in nutrient data books, etc.) to plan meals. Any advice?

    Also, what if I have a day where I’m literally out at work all day and have a social event immediately afterward with no time for workouts? And if this happens on a Shake day, how do I even keep to the diet without having to bring supplies and a blender on location (quite awkward!)?

    • Yes, I found the MC-Day quite cumbersome. I decided to plan it one time and repeated the meal plan for the next 4 cycles. As for the shakes. I pre-blended the fruit for the day and took it with me to work. Then for each meal, I poured a portion and added my protein and mixed it with a spoon and consumed it. Worked out quite easy. One time when I was stuck I just took a banana and ate it with my shake. As for the oil, I drank the shake and ate nut butter seperate (I found it mixed really badly and it tasted nicer on its own).
      Hope that helps – Jo

    • Although I agree with your first statement this is an “Xtreme fat loss diet”, not a “this diet will work anywhere for anybody anytime” Mix all five of your shakes up at once (perhaps even the night before) This diet is not for everybody.

  50. I want my money back for this product but cannot find a way to contact them..any help???

    • Hi Jason,

      Joel Marion customer service will not honor refunds. Contact ClickBank who processes the payments. They are respectable and will promptly refund your money.

      • SB,
        Thanks for the nfo. DO you have their website or number?

      • SB — thank you so much for this information about getting a refund thru ClickBank. I have been emailing with Marion customer service since June 6th. Don’t believe what they say about simply contacting them for a refund because they offer a 100% moneyback guarantee — not true! There is a hassle and you jump thru hoops but get NO WHERE!!!! I’m truly hoping that ClickBank comes thru for me.

      • Thanks for letting others know that getting a refund is not as easy as they make it sound in the bold print. Read the fine print and yes you discover that you need to complete the entire program and then if not satisfied you can ask for the refund. I did the program for a week, found the diet portion to be miserable and was alarmed when another well know trainer advised that the workouts were too much, as in likely to lead to injury. I asked for a refund and was told no, not if I did not complete the program.

        • Hi Jeff,

          The easiest thing is to get a refund through clickbank. No one will ask any questions of you there.

          As to the workouts being too hard to perform, this isn’t a workout plan for beginners. It’s made quite clear on the official site itself in which it says that this is an extreme plan. This is why this plan is only for 25 days.

  51. joyce tamam says:

    have purchased this program in good faith thinking yes great finally an intelligent program, only to be really disapointed by it first of all at no point was there any indication of amount of money that would be required for all the supplements aslo when I looked at the exercise routine I knew straight I was way out of my depth as I am not experienced enough having just joined a gym in February after a 10 years break. I mentioned this to your support team only to be sent a beginner exercise routine which I showed to my trainer at the gym who agreed this was absolutely out of the question for a beginner! I feel this product is being totally mis sold! does anybody else feel the same??

    • Hi Joyce,

      I’m sorry that you find this program unsuitable but lots of people are doing it and report good results.
      You need to understand that this is not a product of WorlofDiets.com but of Joel Marion. We cannot provide you with support for this product. We just wrote a review of it.

    • Hi Joyce,

      The exact same thing happened to me! I contacted Joel Marion’s support and they gave me the run around and refused to return. Don’t go through Joel Marion’s customer service. Contact ClickBank who processes the payments. ClickBank will promptly refund your money!

      After dealing with Joel Marion’s customer service, I would NEVER purchase from them again!

  52. Hi

    I have a gluten intolerance, yeast and dairy. I eat fish and eggs – can this diet be successful when having these conditions?

    • Timothy Mayfield says:

      Yes! I really think so. Switch in brown rice protein for the whey. Studies show it’s the only plant based protein with a complete amino acid profile. Should be able to find it at health food stores, or buy Sunwarrior protein online.

  53. I have just started the Xtreme weight loss plan. The fast day was fine but the Shakes day is a problem. I don’t have a sweet tooth and find taking protein shakes are awfully sweet. Can you take another sourse of protein on these days.

  54. I bought this diet on 5/6/10 and have been on it now since 5/8/10. I found two small problems within the diet plan that I need to have answered but I can’t find any contact info. Is there anyway to get a hold of someone to answer the questions I have?

    • Hi Matt,
      I can’t post Joel Marion’s support email here as I’m sure he wants it to be for customers only. However, when you ordered the diet you got an email receipt. In that email there’s a support email for Joel Marion. Use that.

  55. Claire says:

    How do I contact Joel with my questions? I purchased the extra pack that says I get a personal assessment to set up my plan, but no one has contacted me yet…

    • Hi,
      I can’t publish the support email for everyone to see as it’s for customers only. In the receipt you got by email, there’s the support email you need to contact.

  56. Barb Robinson says:

    Just found this site.Purchased the program on 5/6/10. Don’t particularly want to download the material. Would rather have the books, etc. in hand. I emailed Joel Marion, but I wonder if you can tell me if I will receive the paper materials (and when) or if I only get the download version. I do better if I can read from a book since my computer is not in the place I will be working out. Thanks.

  57. Please how can i subscribe to joel marion

  58. I purchased the diet on May 6th and have yet to receive the email download. I also purchased the Done-for-You Accelerator Pack and the Cheat Your Way Thin Deluxe Edition options that follow at the same time and have yet to receive these email downloads either. I have all the order numbers so can you please get in touch with me so I can access my downloads. Thanks!:)

    • Hi Carol,
      When you purchased XFLD, you got an email with the support email. Please contact Joel Marion through that email and he’ll get you all your downloads ASAP.

  59. E Lopez says:

    I am also interested, but I don’t like vegetables and I find all diet plans require you to eat many vegetables and that is where I fail. Is this going to be a problem on this diet? Also, I get headaches if I don’t eat enough. Are the fast days extreme? My husband works doing hard labor, will this diet give him enough energy to still do his day job?

  60. chiddie says:

    Hi i was just wondering if most of the workout sections will need to take place in a gym so therefore will i need equipments like a running machine or can it be easily done at home. I am just trying to figure out if i am going to have to spend more money on a gym membership as well.

    • The only equipment really required to do the workouts is basic equipment like a pair of dumbbells and a stability ball so no, a gym membership is not a must.

  61. I just got the Fat Burning Furnace, is there a big difference between these two programs. Also, I’m vegetarian, wheat free, diary free, and have some fruit and veggie allergies, too. Will I be able to do it without eating meat? I do eat eggs, though.

    • Hi Laura,
      Yes, there is a difference. The Xtreme Fat Loss Diet is more advanced. It’s a 25 day focused effort to burn off the most fat possible. The nutritional methods and workout routines and combos are very different.

      • What are not eating any meat? Is that ok?

        • You can eat eggs as your source of protein, yes. I don’t know whether you eat fish or not but that is also a possibility in this program instead of meat.

  62. How many pages is the book in the event you wanted to print it once downloaded?

  63. Jacques says:

    I live in Germany, so my question is: Does the food plan contains food that one can buy mostly anywhere or does it refer to a lot of products aimed at America and Americans? I have tried many other food, diet and exercise plans before and they almost always mention foods and drinks that cannot be bought here in Germany.

    • Hi,

      You can get the food in Germany. I don’t think anyone who lives in Europe will have a problem with the food at all.

  64. Jessica says:

    I’m a 15 years old girl. Will this program still be suitable for me??
    My entire family is also vegan…will this be problem as well?

    • Hi Jessica,
      I think this is a program adults. I’m not sure if it’s right for a 15 year old.

  65. i purchased the diet this afternoon. it looks ok, but beware- you have to be EXTREMELY dedicated for 25 days. this is not something that really allows for slip ups. i think you could do the diet if you have allergies- there are substitutions for just about everything now ( i can’t drink milk and use soy instead)- you just have to keep your macro-nutrients in check. there is a lot of counting (cals, carbs, fat, protein). to follow it perfectly, expect to spend money on curtain supplements (protein powders and such, not diet pills). i’m still not sure if i am going to keep it yet, and the only reason i’m considering it is because i just got out of school and have a lot more time to dedicate to this.

  66. I am worried that if I lose weight too quickly, I will have loose skin. (I have around 50 lbs to lose) Is this something that can happen? I’m wondering if it is better to lose the weight slowly so that I don’t get loose skin. Or will the excercise program take care of this problem?

    • Hi Anita,
      I believe that the workouts you’ll do will help you avoid the loose skin problem. Also, just because Joel Marion says that people can lose up to 25 pounds in 25 days, doesn’t mean you have to take it this fast. You can weigh yourself weekly and make adjustments if you feel that it’s going too fast.

      In addition, you’ll be able to ask Joel these questions and any other you may have. I’m sure he will have the answers you seek.

  67. I am disappointed that there isn’t more info–just that beginners can do this to. What about people with food allergies–dairy, eggs, gluten etc. Can they follow it. Athritis, knee problems… Will you get the refund if you order it and then find out that you can’t do it since this info is not made available before purchase?

    • Hi Sara,

      You can get a refund no matter what. It’s a no questions asked money back guarantee.

      As to the food, there are plenty of options so there shouldn’t be a problem.

      As to people with bad knees or other conditions, it’s a little difficult to say as these can have varying degrees. I believe that the vast majority of people can do these workouts.

  68. Is there a way to see a one day sample page of the diet and exercise plan?

  69. I don’t mind intensive workouts but I have a 40-hour job. Does anyone know how long the workouts last? I could do them before or after work but if somehow the optimum time to be working out is 2:30 in the afternoon then that does me no good. Anyone?

    • Hi, the workouts aren’t long and tedious but short and intensive. You don’t need to go exercise in the middle of your work day.

  70. I am so interested in this diet plan but have no interest in the workout portion of it. I don’t do well with workouts that have me following along with sheets of paper. I’m more of a follow-along-to-a-dvd type of person. I wish there was a way to just purchase the diet.

    • Hi, I see what you’re saying, but in this case the workouts and diet go hand in hand. It’s the way to get the best results possible.

  71. I want to order the Xtreme weight loss diet – looks like May 4th – Just putting in my hopes and maybe a good birthday gift for me (May 2nd!). I’ve shared this with my friend (who is a personal trainer) and she is hooked too. Looks like we will work together on the diet workout plan!

    Audio part was on this site: http://XtremeFatLossDiet.com/audio.html
    I may have miss led you – it’s a promo for the upcoming release of the diet… It’s good. More on the workouts would make it even better (for me anyway)

  72. It reads well, I’m interested but still hesitant…found on another site the “audio” portion…can’t find it here?

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